SlingPlayer Mobile for Android Finally Here! (almost)

I waited so long for this that I have actually liquidated my Slingbox Pro on eBay a few months ago. This would have been the perfect opportunity to use the EVO 4's silly kickstand!

Flash 10.1 will (finally) Bring Slingbox to Android & Palm Web OS

Slingplayer Mobile on my PalmOS Treo 700P was a huge feature that I wanted in my next smartphone.

I would use the player to watch shows in bed as I was drifting off to sleep, or watch breaking news events. I was driving home the day the bridge fell in Minneapolis and was able to see live video while stuck in LA traffic on my commute.

iPhone, Palm OS, Blackberry and Windows Mobile have supported SlingPlayer Mobile for some time. Each of these solutions is flawed in a serious way:

iPhone- WiFi only. Like so many other apps in the ATT / Apple walled garden, this is LAME.

Palm OS- This is a dying platform

Blackberry- I have no interest in this antiquated OS.

Windows Mobile- See Palm OS

Sling announced this week at CES it will support Adobe Flash 10.1. Devices with Flash 10 support will be able to view Sling Player content on their desktop or mobile devices. Word is this will only work with Slingbox® Pro-HD and Slingbox SOLO. I believe Sling tried restricting which devices would work with the iPhone when the app was released and eventually supported all Sling Devices.

I have sold my SlingPlayer Pro on eBay anticipating Sling wold never get around to supporting Android. I may be shopping for a new Sling in the near future when Android 2.1 comes to the Samsung Moment in the first half of 2010.

UPDATE:  3/20/10 Engadget has a demo here

Transition to Android: A PalmOS Addict's Story

I was a Palm Treo 700P user for several years. I made the jump to smart phones with trepidation because I didn't want to give up my huge screen and Graffiti text input method. I was using a Sony Clie TH55 prior to the Treo and didn't know how I could handle the switch. The Sony had WiFi, a full color touch screen and Palm's capable OS with a Sony overlay. (My PDA History)

The transition was not nearly as rough as I had expected. I had long been a fan of scroll wheels on the Clie PDA's and the thought of a 5D directional pad was a huge turn off. The transition was made easier because the TH55 was meant to be ambidextrous and placed the scroll wheel in the center of the back of the machine instead of the traditional right-hand side. Minutes after using the Treo 700P, I became a huge 5D pad fan, much like my affection for the Thinkpad's TrackPoint.

The Treo 700P was perfect for one-handed operation. The applications available in 2006 were amazing for their time (still are). It took me almost a full year to tease out the magic streaming podcast capabilities of Kinoma player. I paid $30 for the ability to watch YouTube and hadn't thought to explore more of the program's capability. I became addicted to NPR hourly news and TED Talks.

I also picked up a Slingbox and Slingplayer mobile. I have a DVR at home and the Slingplayer was great to catch live news on the go or the occasional South Park in bed.

Documents to Go was a solid app that allowed you to view and create Microsoft documents on the phone. I could not understand why people flocked to WinMo devices with their sub-par document handling capabilities. You would assume the maker of the native PC based software could make a better mobile experience, but you know what they say about people who make assumptions...

Easy Sync allowed me to sync my work email calendar with my phone. Hopefully, you are not saddled with the Lotus relic at your workplace, but if you are, Easy Sync would have made the early 2000's much easier on you.

I was also able to continue using Graffiti with Graffiti Anywhere. Although not nearly the seamless experience it was on the PDA's, it was serviceable enough on the Treo that I used it about 50% of the time vs. the hard keyboard.

My Search

When Palm announced the Pre with WebOS at CES last year, I thought my ship had come in. Here was the company I had been devoted to since the late '90's and they finally got off their ass and made a new OS. I was at Best Buy the day the Pre was released. I wasn't put off by the iPhone superfan negative reviews that preceded launch day. I played with the phone for about 20 minutes and found it to be very visually appealing, but also very slow and limited. I kept the faith for a couple months before I started to seriously pursue the Android platform.

Streaming

I needed something that could wire-less-ly access podcasts with one program like Android. This alone eliminated the iPhone from my consideration list. Sure there were NPR and other ad hoc streaming apps, but I wanted a clearing house for all my podcast needs. Android seemed to be lacking this capability and Google stepped up and wrote a no-frills app, Google Listen, to fill the void.

Keyboards

Although the Treo had a physical keyboard, I do not find myself married to the idea of that keyboard. I decided the Blackberry Storm may be the device for me. Blackberry seemed to be putting some amount of muscle behind its application library and didn't seem to be as anal as Apple was about letting users use the full capability of their phones.

I was at Verizon the day the Storm was released. I was intrigued by the click screen, but after 5 or so minutes of using the garbage OS, I went away disgusted.

Directional Pads

Few phones on the market today seem to have a 5D pad. One-handed operation has been sacrificed to ensure a sexy form factor. Palm never made any claim to having an attractive phone. The Treo line screamed, I am a nerd who really likes technology.

True, the HTC Hero and Google Nexus One both have trackballs, but the Hero's is useless and I assume the Nexus One to be similar as it is also made by HTC. I spent another 20 minutes with the HTC Hero on the day Sprint released it. I was in love with the Android 1.5 OS and Sense UI. Unfortunately, the virtual keyboard was garbage and ruined the experience for me. I needed a physical keyboard, even though I loved the idea of the iPhone's lack of a keyboard since day 1. It was just like my old TH55 with a cell phone.

Cutting to the Chase- Samsung Moment

I waited as long as humanly possible to update my beloved Treo 700P. When I read the announcement that Sprint would also carry the Samsung Moment, I knew it would be my next phone. It seemed perfect for me, Android OS, physical keyboard, and optical mouse, the next best thing to a 5D pad. I read the mixed reviews of the device and headed for the Sprint store. They were completely sold out, but there was a customer upgrading from his bricked Treo to the Samsung that let me take a look. I spent no more than a minute checking it out before I headed home to order it off the web through my Employee Discount website. Check your employer for discounts on cell plans. My company has discounts with all providers, ATT, Sprint, Verizon and T Mobile.

Diving In

I exported my contact data from the Palm and uploaded it to my Gmail account. (This is my only hesitation about the phone. Google has such a lock on my personal information at this point. Hell, I am blogging this on a Blogger account.) The contacts merged fairly easily with my email and the phone was connected to my Google calendar as well.

Google Listen

This was the first app I downloaded. It is free and does a good job of hunting for podcasts and managing your favorites as subscriptions. I have mild complaints about how it seems to lag finding the latest podcast and it sometimes starts into the cast and starts over after a short period. I just downloaded an update tonight that I hope will improve these issues. Even so, it is a livable, free, replacement for Kinoma Player. I had no complaints about Kinoma, but technology is always improving...

Slingbox UPDATE 1.10.1

Sling seems to have no interest in Android OS. I have sold my Slingbox. I would love to have this with my phone, but by the time Sling gets on the Android train, Hulu and others may have made cable TV irrelevant. Tell Sling that you want an Android app now!

Documents to Go

This was the first and so far only pay app I have downloaded. I love it. Very similar experience to Palm OS, but no sync with your computer. We live in the cloud now :(

Evernote

I got this after Docs to Go and it may be a viable free alternative with some additional juicy features. I LOVE how the app will OCR text on photos and make it searchable. I use it to snap pics of wines I like.

Companion Link

I am demoing this pay app for two weeks. It has worked fine for me, although I have seen some nasty reviews. If you aren't saddled to Lotus Notes, there must be many, cleaner solutions to sync your work and Google calendars.

Astro

This task manager / backup utility is great, and free!

Locale

This is an amazing app. Can't believe they don't charge for it. Allows you to set phone settings for different locations, times, WiFi networks, etc. Change your wallpaper at work to your company logo to let your boss know you are a team player!

I can't wait for Android 2.0! My Treo 700P's days are numbered

I am so excited about the coming barrage of Android phones. I have been a sideline fan of the iPhone since it was released, only to quickly realize, it was still an Apple product :(

I quickly got on the Palm Pre bandwangon, only to discover it was simply an iPhone-lite. By lite, I don't mean to imply that it is less capable than the iPhone, but rather it was developed in the same walled garden vein as the iPhone, by ex-Apple employees.

• No Expansion Card
• No Video @ Launch
• Sacrifice usability for style- ie. Useless center button in lieu of a time / motion saving directional pad
• <100>
• Limited memory allotted to Apps in System Memory

I wish Palm had adopted the Android platform and customized it to the extend they appear to have made WinMo usable on their earlier WinMo phones.

Today, I get a lot out of my 750P. More than the iPhone has to offer regarding streaming podcasts with Kinoma. I can stream my TV to my phone via Slingplayer Mobile and am not tied to WiFi networks.

It seems SlingMedia has such a bad taste in its mouth from creating a marginalized Slingplayer Mobile for the iPhone that only works on a WiFi network, that they are not anxious to develop an app for the Android or Palm community. Let them know what you think here. UPDATE 1.10.10

I checked out the HTC Hero on Sprint's launch day. Loved the phone and Sense UI interface, Despised the virtual keyboard. NOTE: I have since heard there is an extensive calibration process that I did not try. Hopefully that will make the keyboard at least as good as the iPhone, which I can barely tolerate.

Next up, Samsung Moment. I have never been much of a physical keyboard fan, but no longer have Palm's Graffiti to rely on. The Moment should be miles ahead of the Hero with its keyboard. The improved processor and flash is also attractive as well, but it is without Sense UI.

The DROID on Verizon seems to incorporate a much improved Android 2.0 interface with a physical keyboard and fast processor.

If Verizon hadn't lied to me on multiple occasions, I would be lining up for the new DROID. Motorola's questionable user interfaces of the RAZR also make me wary of the end-all-be-all, iPhone killer that Droid is made out to be.

Hopefully I will make the jump soon!

Google Listen - Android's Answer to Kinoma Player?

It looks like the PalmOS legacy may be one step closer to being overtaken by the iPhone, WebOS and Android tri-fecta. With the October 11th release of the HTC Hero, it seems like I will finally make the jump into the modern era of smartphones. I really, really wanted to like the Palm Pre, but there is too much Apple influence and it is growing too slowly for my tastes at the moment, I may check back with Palm WebOS in a year or so, but the HTC Hero with the Sense UI have me really intrigued right now. What did Palm do in anticipation of the Hero launch? They served up the Pixi with a fantastic form factor, but dumbed it down by omitting WiFi and an external memory slot.

I have been a hold-out Treo 700P user for over 3 years. I wanted to like the iPhone when it was introduced. I went to the Apple store the day after it was launched and played with the stunning GUI for over 30 minutes before admitting it was definitely not for me. Simple? Yes. Easy to use? Check. Useful? Not Quite.

I am so accustomed to:

Kinoma Player- I listen to podcasts literally every day. NPR hourly news multiple times, TED talks on occasion, Adam Carolla, This Week in Google. I don't have a set listening schedule and I can't be bothered with subscribing to podcasts in iTunes and downloading them to my phone. I want to find and listen to casts instantaneously. Kinoma player allows me to do this on my Treo 700P. The user interface is tired, yet functional after all these years.

-----> Google Listen and DoggCatcher both seem to offer the functionality of Kinoma on a modern platform. I am VERY enouraged by this.

Documents to Go- Creating and editing real MS Office documents and syncing them with my laptop. Rarely does a day go by that I don't jot a business idea or blog post into a word file. I could use a "cloud" version of google docs, but I do find myself on planes enough that I am much more comfortable with native files. For all you sneering about my comments regarding audio streaming above, calm down. When I am preparing for a trip, I may stream & download a few podcasts to the phone in the airport lounge prior to boarding. I like to keep my options open all the time.

----->Available for $29.99 in the Android Market! I paid $30 for Kinoma player and a similar amount for Docs 2 Go several Palm OS devices ago.

SlingPlayer- This is the tricky one. iPhone has a useless version of this that restricts use to WiFi networks only. If I have access to a WiFi network, there is a good chance that:
A. I am at Home and can watch my own TV
B. I am in a public location that does not lend itself to uninterrupted TV viewing.

Sling seems unwilling to develop an app for Android. Orb seems like it may be a convoluted option.

Google Android Slingbox Update 9-11-09

Sling has officially "declined" the feedback started in the ROCK THE VOTE post.

Click here and you may still leave comments and vote for this idea.

UPDATE 1-10-10 - Good News! Flash 10.1 will (finally) Bring Slingbox to Android & Palm Web OS

Hey Brother! Welcome Back Palm!

Michael Bluth, (Jason Bateman) from Arrested Development, made a surprise appearance today during Palm's CES keynote.

Palm appeared to rise from the ashes today with their take on the iPhone form factor with a slick, sliding keyboard. You may have heard a small wimper at 11:30AM PST when Windows Mobile Officially became irrelevant.

My Quick Take:
I am so glad I stuck it out with my tattered 700P for all these years. I wanted to jump headfirst into the walled garden of the iPhone, but Apple's arrogance prevented me.

The GREAT:

• Not APPLE!
  
• Gestures under the screen!- cool idea
  
• Form factor. Same weight as the iPhone + physical keyboard.
  
• Replaceable battery (I actually don't care that the iPhone's battery is not removable, but this is a plus for the Pre)
• Re-charge, Cable Free!
• DataViz Sponsorship=Documents to Go= NATIVE MS FILES on device
• Wi-Fi
  

Questions:

• Why no SD Card?
• 8GB? why not 32GB?
• 3MP Camera?
• What is the battery life?
• Track ball :(
  
• MobiTV sponsorship? Will SlingBox still work?
• Will current Palm aps work?
• Desktop Sync? So much emphasis on the cloud, will it still sync native files with my laptop? I NEED native files to work on when I am on a plane and outside Wi-Fi/Cell coverage.
  
• Push Email? Corporate Email Support?- Will Corp Email be left to WinMo? (see WinMo comment above)
• No Stylus- Handwriting Recognition seems to be a thing of the past with smart phones. I miss Grafitti I.
  

We will obviously learn much more about this device in the coming months. Release is for the first half of 2009, but it has yet to be certified at this point so anything sooner than June seems unlikely.

ROCK THE VOTE: Slingbox for Android, NOW!

I imagine you were as shocked as I was that Google didn't take the bull by the horns and come out swinging with its Android App Market. What better way to arrive on the scene than offer something Apple has put the kibosh on? Apple likely sees Slingbox as a threat to Apple TV or their rumored DVR efforts.

Sling has already shown a "Proof of Concept" at the WWDC (well actually in a back alley next to a Starbucks).


The question is, Why wouldn't Google "encourage" Sling to come to the Android platform?

Enough with the speculation, Tell Sling yourselves! Vote on their feedback forum. There are currently only 12 votes for Android versus 228 for iPhone. Make a difference! ROCK THE VOTE!
11/19/08 Update: There are now 255 votes for SlingPlayer on the Android platform! It is the 3rd ranked idea! Sling has yet to review the idea, but I did have a visit today from an IP inside Google Corp! Hopefully they will push Sling into action!

11/3/08 Update: You have moved the needle! There are currently 84 votes on the Sling feedback forum for Android support. They have not started to review the idea, but it is the #6 idea and has been the top "hot" idea for the past couple days. Sling.com is still in beta and will launch soon. Please keep voting for Android Slingbox support. If you have a beta account, please login when you vote.

THANKS!